My featured guest today Mike Knocks from White Harvest Seed Company is here to tell us about heirloom seeds.
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Tell us about your seed store. I have a lot of new listeners if they are new to gardening what’s an heirloom seed and abut your store.
There’s 3 types of seeds
grow your seeds
save the seed
year after year it will constantly be that seed.
hybrid – they take one variety
- get some benefit
- bug resistance
- shelf life
If you take a hyrbid sterile not
plant reverts back one of its granddaddy
beefsteak heirloom tomato year after year
corn is the most popular and they cross with roundup resistance
totally not natural and it never reproduces true to type
Heirlooms are tended to be noted to have better taste
old fashioned flavors our grandparents fell in love with
Ozarks of Missouri
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how we got our name
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call and question about things
glad to talk
I’ve asked a lot I haven’t really understood, but the fact that it reverts back, that finally makes sense. You have all sorts of things on your website.
What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?
the big three and had good results
news to me
the trace mineral side of things
- adding those trace elements
- quality of the plants
- add fertilizer elements
- biggest thing that I learned through the years
- Old timers used to just throw some cow manure
- find when you focus
How big is your place?
We have 30 acres that we live on
our gardens that we use
one is probably 30×100 the one by our house
is probably 50×50
- we hope to expand
- by condensing it to be more efficient
running like chickens whiteout our heads
Is that what’s growing there? The seeds?
We kind of specialize in things that are rare
One of the beans that we sell, is called a Tarheel bean one of 2 companies that sell that
heirlooms have to have isolation distances between things.
japanese long cucumbers
if you have 2 different cukes within a mile of each other since they are insect pollinated they won’t be true-to-seed
partner with other growers that grow seed for us
- according to our spects
- few companies that are wholesale seed companies
most important question for us, and most of our customers “Are you tied to any GMO?”
even foreign companies
If they give me the right answer which is of course no.
at the present time
we deal with 4-5 companies
3-4 certified organic
our selection of seed is very well rounded
Very confident that it is genetically modified exempt and we test every 10 months
status of all our seeds
nothing more frustrating then to order seed and get it in and have it not grow
your entrusting your good money
Not only your money, but your time as well, if you put seeds in the ground and they don’t grow where we are there’s just that one window. A lot of my listeners are interested in becoming a seed farmer what would you tell them to do to start?
One of the things
different parts of the country
different growing zones and
looking into becoming a seed grower they should just contact us.
send the proper info
what’s their growing practices
We don’t like using seed that’s grown with gobs and gobs of pesticides on them.
Just have them contact us
call us or send us an email
phone (866) 424-3185
- not a big money maker
- big additional
- how big of items
- grow or buy
just because you grow 100lbs
people that want to grow vegetables
market is ripe
people are looking for quality grown fresh produce
sitting at the farmer’s markets their stuff looks pretty nice.
I just want to back up a little. Is there anything that you do different to grow for seed then you do for vegetables? Is there a different process?
That questions has a multi-answer.
All vegetables have their own mannerisms
grow them with
Have to learn how their pollinated
- insect or
- self pollinators
how far apart they have to grow to save true to type seed
corn is a wind pollinated vegetable
if you have corn and you have your patch growing and you have someone else growing any other type of corn within 2-3 miles you’re most likely to get a cross especially if you’re down wind and they tassel at the same time
save the seed from it
whatever it cross-pollinated youre gonna have an issue next year. If it crosses with a GMO variety
Another example, carrots
Anyone growing queen annes lace – it’s pretty but some people call it a weed
that is in the same family as a carrot if you have it growing near anything.
going to seed
biggest thing you have to think about as a grower is learning how to keep herilooms from cross pollinating. Rough rule of thumb? you need 1/4 mile of separation
how can that be done then?
bagging and succession planning.
Need to learn proper procedures
grow for us
carrots out there
It takes 2 years carrot seed
how are you gonna keep it
following through properly.
One thing spinning in people’s heads. Where are you putting your property if you don’t have property yet.
Especially if youre growing for yourself.
look like a carrot all season till it starts forming it’s fruit gonna be a weird thing that you thought was gonna be a food source and you’ve spent 3 months, planning this growing this
learning those techniques
resource internet is live
get a resource you can have in your hand
The Complete Guide to Saving Seeds: 322 Vegetables, Herbs, Fruits, Flowers, Trees, and Shrubs
Seed to Seed
doesn’t just take about vegetables
herbs are vey important
grow your own medicine cabinet in your own backyard
have that as
A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be?
For gardening stuff
grab as many of mine as
Here in the Ozarks we have some tough winters
A favorite recipe you like to cook from the garden?
Besides the fresh stuff
Me and my wife’s nemesis! We can sit and pig out on that all day
cut the zucchini like french fries
like our crunchy
- milk and flour
good bowl of ranch dipping recipe
Sweet corn is Awesome too!
A favorite internet resource?
- herbal side
Our website information under resources that tie into links and websites
friends of our businesses!
A favorite reading material-book, mag, blog/website etc you can recommend?
yes one of my number one resources is the Vegetables Gardener’s Bible
back 1/3 of it in the same way
people have broken down each individual variety
- greek oregano
- what it needs
- soil temp
that’s what I love
you don’t have to know everything on every products
your not gonna grow everything…
If you have a business to you have any advice for our listeners about how to sell extra produce or get started in the industry?
realize it’s not simple
take your time
wide open topic
you might think you’re an expert
every years’ different
- no bugs and everything
- educate yourself on how to adjust
do your due dilligence
rewards are so much rewarding!
- get to be your own boss
even though you have your other boss
something you can do!
Not limited to rich people or college education folks
I had to learn and I’m always learning
someone will introduce as an expert and I cringe. I learn every year and I’m different…
The guy who taught me how to podcast John Lee Dumas went to law school for one year and he said, in a court of law, an expert is someone who knows more then everyone else in the room so you probably are an expert most of the time!
if there was one change you would like to see to create a greener world what would it be? For example is there a charity or organization your passionate about or a project you would like to see put into action. What do you feel is the most crucial issue facing our planet in regards to the environment either in your local area or on a national or global scale?
Not to be too political
from our point of view as a seed company
so many negatives about that just for the human health part of it. So many terrible results on a health basis. On that side on the growing and the gardening side I’d say that.
What I’d like to see more and I am seeing more
organizing a seed bank in your local area
People come together and grow their seed properly
- pass that on
- your neighbor grows something else and give it back to your neighbor
- communities will be able to help each other
To be honest with you. I’m not a big government fan
There were some seed saving communities building seed banks and the government went in and were calling them terrorist organizations and that’s got to stop!
as human beings and citizens we need to be able to grow on our own farms
Some people close to me started a local Seed Library.
Have them to contact us before the next seed swap and we should be able to donate. Remind them that I talked to you.
Well people are interested. I was there the first year, they expected 350 people and 1500 people showed up. There were 500 flyers and they were gone before it even started at 10 oclock in the morning!
contact us before our seed swap! Will donate some
Do u have an inspiration tip or quote to help motivate our listeners to reach into that dirt and start their own garden?
I said earlier the lord led us to do this business we try to honor him
Scripture Verse From
“For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord GOD will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.”
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