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I’m very very excited to talk to my guest today because she’s as passionate about politics as I am. So welcome Judy Frankel!
You’re in Oregon right?
I’m in Southern L.A.
Tell us about yourself.
How do we connect with you?
pledgeforhonestcandidates page.
I grew up on a farm in Pennsylvania believe it or not, and I have the farm genes in my genes… so my dad got me passionate about gardening and eating those unbelievable tomatoes, you just can’t buy those tomatoes in the supermarket, move out to California it was because I wanted warm weather all year wrong, so when I tried to grow them on a balcony
When I met my first master gardener, took the 10 week course, and passed the test, and you have to do a bunch of volunteering, but then I moved to Massachusetts, and took it again there… but totally changed tracks because theÂ
zone is completely different…
California is all about growing food … their mission is to teach low income families to grow your own… in Massachusetts you can’t do that because their growing season is only 3 months long for food … I struggled to grow food in Massachusetts.
You can do it in Montana if you have a greenhouse. take your plants inside, you can manage, with hoop-houses… So I am familiar with both kinds of gardening.Â
My specialty is helping people grow fruit trees. IÂ
- sell
- irrigate
- prune
- train
- fertilize
- vineyards
- roses
I’m a big pruner…
That’s what I end up doing most of the time. IÂ got into the political stuff which has a lot to do with gardening.
I went to L.A. (spring 2016) My husband’s a news junkie and we were watching the French news, I want to say they were saying that even though vineyards are only 3% of the farmland they get like 27% of the chemicals.
What listeners want to know about roses…
hard to teach it on a podcast
if you know how to prune roses
great start into pruning
heading cut
thinning cut
pruning to an outward facing buds
center of tree
will block the light for center of other branches
sometimes you prune to an inward facing bud
thing to know if your learning pruning
pesticide
What pesticide are they using?
What are their main pests
we don’t have a problem with dusting your crop with suffer
fungicides
are really ok, to add to your mix
integrated pest management
least toxic thing first
last year and a half
dutch
netherlands
banned roundup in their country
banned it for streets and parks
didn’t ban it for agriculture
found it was toxic enough they didn’t want it in their regular spaces
started using a technique that vineyards use to kill weeds
high temperature steam
really just water
non-toxic
spray practically right up to the vine, don’t want to get too close
interesting way of dealing the weeds
doesn’t work on perennials
dandelions are annuals
spread by seed
probably works on them
if you have a small yard
you can handle maybe handpicking dandelions
only garden 6500 square feet
most of it that is not covered with grass is covered in mulch and I can
if you have a yard and you can’t handle dandelions
go ahead and pick them out by hand
if you yard gets too big
they get ahead of them
don’t worry about a few dandelions
get used to mowing your grass and pulling the heads off as soon as you see a flower
if you don’t let it get to the seed stage it’s gonna be ok…
mission
money out of politics because we know it can corrupt
get roundup out of the food supply
learning about what it does in body…
gets so far into the weeds sometimes… talks really fast… she’s just brilliant
one is, its basically an antibiotic
kills the beneficial bacteria in the gut and in the soil
making aromatic
melatonin
serotonin
dopamine
melatonin helps you sleep at night
killing the gut bacteria
a lot of depression and insomnia
besides killing the
probiotics
multi billion
that’s because your constantly
if you are not eating organic
it’s very hard to get food without glyphosate
even if you are not taking an antibiotic for a cold or flu
your still having to worry about getting it in your everyday food
probiotic food business
one thing…
that links to things like colitis, leaky gut, gluten intolerance
then the other thing that glyphosate does
its a chelate?
grabs onto minerals
and some are essential to normal body function… this is where I’m gonna defer to Stephanie Seneff
her youtube videos are wonderful
chelates with a necessary mineral
normally make it possible to take toxins out of your gut
everything becomes more toxic
presence of glyphosate
another food item
glutamate
is a really interesting chemical
that the food industry loves
MSG
can be hiding
having nothing to do with glyphosate
glutamate is a flavor enhancer
turns off the part of the brain that
whatever it is the glutamate
its because they are adding this chemical
its in everything
why wouldn’t they add it
its gonna make you want to eat more
we’re eating
something like 50 names
great list that has all the things that have glutamate
if your a label reader
you can say
lactic acid…
what it does
why it’s so bad in your system
it’s a nero toxin
find
high levels in autistic children
1-2 punch
glyphosate makes impossible to get rid of glutamate
if you have a child with autism
you know that glutamate is a big no,no you should stop eating
the other thing about roundup
there’s a lot of evidence, or a straight line
they are both neurotoxins
neurological disorders
glyphosate you should not eat it, if you are worried about getting alzheimer’s, or parkinson
I get really P.O.’d
why do they even put it in our food in our
I tell this joke
what did we call food before
we things were
people should be mad not that their organic…
has genes in it,
the bt is inside the phoneme of the corn
there is no way to wash it off
bt
when it used to be sprayed on the crops…
it was it’s own thing
it was contained
when you take the genome and shoot it into the corn
they have not done tests on what it does to the human body
no
genetic modification
show me the studies that prove it
we haven’t done any long term
plenty of studies that show the animals
IDK very possible that it is not good for us
haven’t proven
GMO corn floating around
sweet corn is not gmo
only feed the gmo to the animals
‘part and parcel of your meat now
the fact that it’s sprayed with round up the corn
soaks into the tissues
every part of that corn plant
has glyphosate
doesn’t just flush out of their system
actually get’s into the blood stream and tissue and then were eating it in the meat
unless your meat is grass fed
corn finish
grass finish
Chia sources
fat of the milk, is what has all the hormones and chemicals
I love butter
what I have lately been doing
find oatmeal that is not sprayed with roundup
they don’t have gmo oats
they’re growing the oats like normal
they will dry them
if you spray them with roundup
you don’t have to worry about a rain that
crop failure
then they harvest it…
but you think, oatmeal’s a healthy food
I’ll bet if you
Quaker’s oats
if you put it through glyphosate
would be high
grown as oatmeal
oat farmers are using this method
I called
we went I went to my sprouts
my daughter’s urine came back high in glyphosate
you can have your blood, urine and breast milk
off the charts
here I am growing this organic food
I realized that I am eating oats
oats
wheat
barley
peas
legumes
I think they have
non-gmo things that are sprayed really heavily at the end of my lifespan
it’s not organic
but maybe it’s not sprayed
took me about 3 months
they went to their distributer
go back to their manufacturer
that company had to go back to the farmer
when I finally got my answer
yes they spray it with
1/3 of what we eat
breakfast morning meal
not the least of which
get’s cupcake at school… with wheat
unless I just tell them
only kid sitting there without the birthday thing…which kills me!
Now I am buying organic only oats…
it’s at least 50% if not 4 x
I can now almost be sure
I am eating a ton of glyphosate
then I get organic only
between 2009-14…
we’ve sprayed 527million pounds of roundup….just in the United States
toward that end of that period
the farmers were complaining the Roundup wasn’t killing the weeds enough
Monsanto went back to the FDA
300 million pounds per year
we are getting a deluge
the other thing about roundup
recently as 2014
World Health Organization declared that it was a carcinogen
Bayer the company who bought Monsanto is thinking glyphosate is on it’s way out… so they are trying to sell as much glyphosate as they can over the next 5 years…
we’re all gonna have alzheimer’s…
I am saying
Back in 2011, I had one of those life changing events, I got divorced, I had to cobble together a career, if you could be successful …
If you knew you cow;don’t fail
my choice was to fix the government
of all the things people say
it’s such a mess
I thought Obama was doing a terrible job
there’s no way I was gonna vote for him in 2012
he did everything
everything you hoped he would do
part of the Fiza act to take away Habeas Corpus
NSA blew up you have no privacy
thing that just goest beyond everything else
just pick people off with the drone program
no judge, no jury,
judge jury and executioner
if you are going to do that in other places around the world…
A lot of the things that Obama was doing back in 2011, I was making this decisions
Obama, kept as appointees, head of the EPA, FDA,
monsanto, cronies…
it was just keeping
Bush people in all these agencies that are supposed to be supervising protecting us, making it easier for the companies to poison us, so I was unhappy for them
Michelle would talk about how we should grow food and have organic this and have green leafy vegetable and behind our backs pointing our
Bernie was always on the right side on the food issue
let’s label the food
label the GMOs
tell people that it’s made with ingredients
when we’re looking for the president
people who are the head of these agencies who protect us to the food that we eat
I decided that I am going to put together a website of people who
who has taken a pledge to get money out of politics
the pledge had 3 parts to it
Craig
big influence
amendment to the constitution
Montana
his amendment would overturn citizen’s united, and electoral college
pass the american anti-corruption act
hosted online by represent.us
anyone can pass it in any state
2 main parts of it,
if you pass it in your municipality
none can take more then $500 as a donation
you can’t turn around and become a lobbyist
so it stops the revolving door
passed in 14 cities
North Dakota had it on the ballot
everywhere it’s on the ballot it seems to pass
anti-corruption…
3rd part of this pledge
probably the most important as if those weren’t important enough
back to paper ballots, counted in public so we can video tape them
we have established that the black ballots are totally regale
illegitimate and not to be trusted
the third part
pledge for honest candidates
fix some of the issues around voting
approval voting
winner takes all type of elections
most votes wins
if you a have 2 really good candidates
the person who’s not so good can win if the other
you can vote for who you want
you can vote for 2
stops the spoiler effect
we;ll never get another president
2 parties are totally corrupt
anybody get into office
easily held at gunpoint
we;ll start killing your family
if you don’t toe the industrial military complex’s line
we have some big forces out there
we have to get congress that works
much harder to pick off 1/2
It’s called
In Search of the Next POTUS
one
a true story
it tells how all these pieces work, and its told in a very personal story
Sure, there’s a chapter in my book, about what it is,
there’s a movie about how horrible Hillary would be as a president
some people complain
it’s against the McCain Feingold act which had been passed
a lot of organizations who are shady
fought it all the way to the supreme court
we should be able spend money any way we like, and put any word out there the way we want
Citizen’s united
was able to prevail
corporations with their unlimited money
unions can spend as much money as they want
this is not good for democracy
deluge
from only the wealthy interests
for ex
state of California
prop 37 that would have labeled GMOs
all the big industries, Monsanto, all the way to Pepsi-Co. Pepsi, Coke, are all sweetened with high fructose corn syrup
6million to fight against it
they won
by the air of their chin chin
confuse voters
it’s gonna cost so much
they already label all the food that goes into Europe
they have to do it for Europe
or that it will be more expensive
it’s that they know
that actually started a long time ago…
Buckley v. Vallejo
the supreme court decision is that money is speech
if you didn’t have Buckley V Vallejo
paved the way for Citizen’s United
the corporation is the
where the rights of a person
fi we didn’t have the same rights as people
part and parcel of the Citizen’s United
have to make an argument
55:25
3 pieces to that decision
not very boring
chapter about citizens United
legal reasoning
big problem with abandoning this
corporations do not have the same rights as people do
there are so many laws on the books about corps having rights… in order to reverse it…you would have to get rid of a whole bunch of precedents
Craig Clevidents
he is brilliant
wrote a
renew democracy amendment
Curious what your listeners want to know….
different tangental topics that
aren’t we all invested in food …
one of my specialties is
apples
I would tell people my speciality is nectarines and peaches…
glad
that your talking about the apples
certain apples
only grow on the tips of their branches
spur baring everywhere else
spur barring
short thick twigs
wrinkly right there, bark is overlapping itself
spurs are really important
every year they will get fruit off the same spot
only prune
straight up branches doing absolutely nothing fruit wise
varieties that bare on the tips
fuji and green granny smith
tip baring
don’t want to prune the tips on those…
spread them out over the nice are
imagine looking at it from the sky
cardinal
North south, east west quadrants
everything should fit in between
don’t have branches that over lap each other
by the way
apple tree is the opposite of pruning style form peaches
tip baring
certain apples only bear on the tips
just have to know that or else your gonna cut
fuji, and granny are tip bearing….
asian pear that is tip bearing
NY is big apple country
crips pink is another tip baring
sport of pink lady…
ROOT OF THINGS
Which activity is your least favorite activity to do in the garden.
trapping gophers…
seed fruit
gum
recently had a black hole type of trap disappear
after the gopher gets caught in there…
the whole trap gets stolen
raccoon like to eat
What is your favorite activity to do in the garden.
Hard to beat pruning roses… the smell
delightful activity
where do I begin
I belong to the rose society
meet people
and learn about roses
in your area join it…
Idk what to say, its a total passion
once you’ve grown something successfully
IIDK how people can have just the one
ice berg roses
are so boring
don’t have any smell to speak of
I have a few in my garden
I like the variety
also food
cauliflower
broccoli
What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?
The best gardening advice came from this one book
how to grow more vegetables, fruits, nuts berries, on less land then you can imagine…
John Javins, ultimate guide on bio-intensive gardening
that is the best place
double digging
don’t recommend it anymore
good experience
a lot when I first started garden
a lot of appreciation for not walking on your beds
once you’ve double …
companion planting, I really got into it, certain plants like to live next to each other and can have a symbiosis
never plant a tomato plant without putting basil next to it
another tip I couldn’t live without out
if you have a problem with aphids
alyssum – attracts the surfeit fly
their babies eat aphids
even the aphids
best thing to have
a variety in your garden
your attracting bees
your attracting beneficials
brought in the decollate snails
have a long shell, gets skinnier cone shaped shell
they go after the bad snails…
encourage the predators, sometimes
comes in purple and white
here’s the other thing about aphids, if you have a plant that is attacked by them, it’s because the on they attacked was weaker
self seeds… not at all invasive,
would never recommend a plant
very nice scent…
A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be.
OMG, Idk what it’s called, it has like a triangular head, at lethal angle, it’s a great weeder, but also a great way to scratch the fertilizer into the fall, sharp weeding tool… same triangular on a long handle
I’m always getting down into the base of the plant
take that pointy edge and get under the root of the weed and pull it out, almost precision
the other one is the short handled rake…
same kind of times that are flexible…
clean around a rose bush or tree
don’t want to leave the leaves under the peach tree especially
hold a lot of spores
want to get dead leaves
A favorite recipe you like to cook from the garden?
I have these favorites for the summer… winter
recipe
cauliflower…
I LOVE IT!
So easy
do’t even have to write it down
blanch cauliflower
steam it,
throw it in a pan, on some sizzling garlic,
then pour a cup of red wine, burgundy wine
reduce the wine
the wine and it’s all in there and the cauliflower picks up al that red flavor throw
pepper
thyme
with rice
parmesan …
eggs in a basket
it was a heavier,
Animal, Vegetable Kingsolver…
recipe
zucchini orzo
fine,
make some orzo pasta
throw the two together
look up zucchini orzo
the other eggs in a nest
my favorite recipe for making swiss chard
for vegetarians… who eat eggs…
I do a few other things in the summer time
when I have extra eggplant, tomatoes
hot peppers
roast in olive oil
roast garlic on a tray
food process it, it’s called Eggplant Caponata
so good
serve it as a dip/ pita bread
roast vegetables…
garlic recipe
if you take a whole bunch of garlic
bulbs break into cloves
10 garlic bulbs
a lot of garlic
throw in a pot of boiling water
turn pot off, soak in hot water for 50 minutes
drain it and take all the paper off the garlic
put the garlic in a pot, cover with to the top of the garlic,
cheap olive oil
slutty olive oil
bring to a low boil for 30 minutes
amazing garlic you can add to all your recipes
soft and you can mash it,
it goes into
it’s the bomb!
not only do you have the garlic that is infused with oil, and the oil that is infused with garlic and two wonderful
any time easier
literally last for months…
Final question- if there was one change you would like to see to create a greener world what would it be? For example is there a charity or organization your passionate about or a project you would like to see put into action. What do you feel is the most crucial issue facing our planet in regards to the environment either in your local area or on a national or global scale?
The number one thing I would do is ban these pesticides that are genetically modified that are used on crops, they are harmful to humans
the bacteria in the soil
those beneficial organisms in the soil
capture carbon in the air
mitigating factor in global warming
protecting humans from eating
how
Do u have an inspiration tip or quote to help motivate our listeners to reach into that dirt and start their own garden?
the thing that inspires the most people
is to be in the garden
see a beautiful garden
when your eating that food that you’ve grown
How do we connect with you?
pledgeforhonestcandidates page.
I’ll answer your questions
3 jobs right now.
do a lot of activism
to vote for my democratic delegate
change this democratic party
corrupt all the way at the top
just a delegate thing….
support behind people that you believe in
that will go to local
convention
sending someone who is going to represent you and speak loudly and clearly…
if you go to pledges for honest candidates
list of
go to contact page
and tell me you want
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