It’s April 29th!
I am so excited to introduce my featured guest today Anne Bikle
Anne are you ready to dig into it?
Anne Biklé is a biologist and environmental planner. Her career spans the fields of environmental stewardship, habitat restoration, and public health. The Hidden Half of Nature is her first book she wrote with her husband David R. Montgomery who is a professor of geomorphology at the University of Washington and a 2008 MacArthur Fellow. He is the author of The Rocks Don’t Lie and other award-winning popular science books.
Their website is dig2grow.com
Welcome Green Future Growers!
I interviewed this woman Ashley from Pitmoss on February 25th and we just love it. I’ve been using it in the classroom everyday and I just love it.
So you and your husband wrote 3 books now right?
We ended up with this triology, in Dirt that’s the plight of our soil on
worst thing you can do for soil
that’s the story in Dirt, the plight of our soil
the hidden after nature which David and I coauthored, he solo authored Dirt.
This amazing new area of science, where we’re finally able to see into the microbial world and I’m using see metaphorically, because of course the microbrial world is invisible but we now have tools and techniques that scientists have tools to look into
symbiotic relationships plants and microbes in the soil we also cover in
The Hidden Half of Nature the human microbe biome what’s going on in our guts.
Both we and plants are chimeric organisms meaning we are an ammagulation of life forms
We have all our own cells and each plant has all of it’s own selves, but we also each haul around a good number of microbes that help us live and keep us alive. So the
insights and understanding
that book is solving the problem talked about in dirt
using the science we unveiled in
Any gardener would not be surprised that we’ve really hammered the soil, but that it’s possible and investigate and understand
- how the soil works
- apply all of that
- bring soil back to life
Do that’s the Dirt triology!
I think I’m talking with David next week.
Where does one find your podcast?
Besides my website… iTunes, there’s Podcast Addict I use on my kindle or android, stitcher, google play… etc. Im usually a techy but the learning curve for Podcasting has been a bit longer then usual. I feel like youre my new friend already, that’s what I love about podcasting I feel like we’re new friends already just talking.
There’s so many angles to the digital world. I think one of the best is when you connect
Tell us a little about yourself.
David and I live just north of downtown Seattle, and this time of year, I was outside way too late last night try
this must be what farmers talk about at harvest time.
in my case here it’s at the other end of the season spring
differnet kinds of maples that are in pots
some I should
too far leafed out to be pulling them out of their post
that things opened up now
that’s opening up now
that is the wonderful world of gardening
something very exciting happened this week
let me tell you about it
anyone who reads the
I am a big proponent of using organic matter to keep the soil micro biome well fed so it can do all the things for the plants
my favorite ingredients
you can get free wood chips
lot of demand for free wood chips
get on the phone with arborists
beg and plead
can’t you bring some
pretty slim pickens
called an arborist
don’t sound whiny
can I please have some wood chips
got a call back 3 hours later
I love you
comes over my neighbor and I we’re partners in crime
Len, 70 year old painter
if we can all do what he does when were 70
I will be happy happy
Jason pulls in
almost as big as the RV
then he pulls away
we’re thrilled to have the chips
in the past we’ve gotten chips from arborists
you get what you don’t pay for
they are free
pick around it
these wood chips are promo!
got a really nice grind on these chimps
no bamboo and blackberry
Leonard and I are giddy!
@dig2grow twitter feed
you’ll see the big pile of mulch
Leonard only condition is they be moved out of his driveway by may 31st
So we have a month!
That is my very exciting thing this week we scored those wood chips!
They just bring them to you for free?
they need to get rid of them
They don’t want to have to drive to dump them. They get charged money for that. I think it’s crazy anyway that we have any sort of incentive for a business for an arborist to be throwing away perfectly good organic matter!
that’s just a complete crime!
this is good clean stuff! It’s not like other things you sometimes run into with the gardening and nursery industry!
Anyone out there listening contact your, local arborist. Most every town has some kind of tree service and call them and ask!
I’m sure lots of listeners are like I can just call and they will bring me compost to add to my soil!
Tell me about your first gardening experience?
I grew up in the Denver Metro area of Colorado,
lived there till I moved away for college
I think I remember, maybe being really little and being 4-5 and helping to plant flowers. That was my first gardening experience in June sometime. That’s just little tiny memory.
What I remember most being a little bit older, maybe about 11-12, and my dad would take me to Ardano’s Flower land. That was a big nursery. Anyone who’s been to Denver knows, Sante Fe Avenue
Sante Fe Blvd they had a big wide shoulder not paved just kind of dirt, wide enough there were businesses you’d pull off the paved part of the road.
I remember walking in and it was flowers as the eye could see! We’d get a big cart, he’d say go get whatever you want!
Here I am walking around in flower Disneyland so here I am pulling things off the tables and putting them on the cart!
I grew up in pretty much a suburban environment!
not like an acre
1/4 acre or 1/8 of an acre
There was this small garden right alongside the driveway. That was the garden you waked to and from the house! I always in daily sight I planted up with the things from Ardanos.
Just common things not knocking anybody’s socks off
Something about early June
- being outside
- having the hose nearby
- hands in the dirt
- and all of these gorgeous flowers
- annually around the house
11-12 through high school. Then things got out of hand.
Inside the house, there is no gardening in the winter time, but I started a plant collection
- looking at pictures a while back, I had sort of taken over the living room
- gardening habit
- plant lust bad enough you’ll figure out how when and where you can.
I was just at my friend Nola’s and she talked about back in the beginning. She had this aloe plant blooming! It’s the most incredible thing I ever saw.
We just went on the garden club field trip and I was constantly pointing out arrays, incorporating some math, but it was like Disneyland the kids were excited looking all over at the different plants and flowers!
We have some stuff growing a lettuce garden fro the guineea pig!
How did you learn how to garden organically?
I you know
a true confessioin
around the house
after planting all the flowers that I had brought home, my father would always insist it’s time to fertilize them, here’s the miracle grow! Here I was dutifully mixing up the miracle grow, the plants needed fertilizer!
There was no example in my household
You fertilize plants, you poison weeds!
We were not throwing chemicals around!
There were weed checmicals in the outdoor shed but I didnt because there was no beauty or joy. so my dad would ask my brothers
not a model
around the house
mostly the yard was a sort of area of benign neglect
unless something got out of hand, it’s intereting because it’s kind of my li
approach here in Seattle, but things grow like crazy so if things get out of hand it’s a little intense! Out of here with all the rain and water!
I interestingly enough
I have to say
helped when I went to ca
To UCLA Santa Cruz
that town and campus, you just take in organic in senses and thoughts just by osmosis.
So this is 20 yeas ago that I was in school
That’s interesting I went to Santa Cruz about 20 years ago, for Redwood summer!
There was somehting at the base of campus called the farm and garden project. I lived off campus my first year, and I’d ride my bike. Everytday I’d ride past the farm and garden and I could see it was this little oasis.
I went over there to walk into the area that was the garden and it would just blow my mind. It was some kind of spritely fairlyand.
- spring dragonflies
- spring quarter
- all these pollinators
- like these spritely fairies
these interns and not sweating going to sit inside a classroom and learn about cells. I thought these people looks so happy!
Im gonna get on my bike and go up the hill
This very magical place! Any gardener knows it
I was not seeing the elbow grease
- these other worldly time people
- insects pollinators
- magical experience
huge de-stressor to go over there and take ten or fifteen minutes and se what was grwoing!
see these things
early 20s you began to see there are
- different ways to have a garden
- different ways of eating
- interacting with the world
pretty much self taught
Any organic gardener knows you can spend a lot of money on products at the nursery
in your 20s
typically don’t have any money. Living in any rental place.
Don’t have the money to buy some product so we’re gonna figure out how were gonna live and make them grow! That is how I came upon my organic gardening experience!
With every garden you learn something about myself and those plants as well.
neat thing about, every gardening season, you build upon what you have learned in the past.
I have to say my mom was always an organic gardener. I still thinking didn’t everyone grow up with a compost on the counter, I remember going to college and being like well keep our compost here in this milk carton and my roommates being like hun? I love the story about teh sprites in Santa Cruz. I thought when I joined the podcasting group that my husband would jsut teach people based on his 40 years of gardening but as the weather changes etc we’re always learning.
Tell us about something that grew well this year.
So my garden here in Seattle is a mix of ornamentals and vegetables, if we lived somewhere else I would dedicate more space to growing food. I feel so blessed and fortunate to live in a place that has really decent farmer’s markets.
Maybe the last 5 maybe pushing 10 years, maybe not quite. I feel like I can get really decent quality freshly harvested food at the farmer’s markets. When your crazy about plants and the farmers got the food covered where I live. There are so many wonderful plants I like to do that.
I will say
ehere’s what I would say
I have been really interested in trees lately. It’s also coming up on Arbor day. I think it’s tomorrow. May 1st?
Trees are such an interseting kind of plant because they are so long lived when you start with vegetables and annual flowers, everything happens in one year or less
- burst of growth
- joy of seeing that and then
Our trees now, they’re about the oldest one is about 10-15 years old, when you grow a tree and you see it every day, it is really fun to watch it change over time. That’s what an annual or perennial generally you don’t get to experience the plant.
I’l give an example I’ve had to do less and less to take care of our trees.
any other plant in the garden
dote on this thing especially a vegetable out here in Seattle
I have snails and slugs and cutworms that I’m dealing with but they are not going to do anything to my tree. The tree, it’s way bigger, it’s got loads of defensive compounds loaded up for any pest that comes at it.
The only thing I do with my trees, I had an arborist out to do some shaping on a couple of trees. One tree had these co-dominant leaders.
With minimal pruning keeping mulch around the base of the tree these beings will just
- grow and grow
- change over time
- structure becomes more beautiful more defined
one tree even at almost 15 years ago, it’s still kind of a squirt.
it’s a tupelo It’s like this rangy teenager and maybe it’s gonna be like this for it’s first 30 years of it’s life, maybe 40-45 years and you can’t say that bout a lot of plants
s a book
if your a tree person or want to
German forester wrote this book.
it kind of says it all
life of a tree
what they can bring into our lives and really seeing them as beings that we share this planet with. I learn something from my trees whether I have them in pots or in the ground. I learn something all the time.
I am in love with my trees probably because I am leafing out!
This big woody plant just start bursting all over with leaf buds!
You just think who knew all this greenery was embedded in the wood?
I love what you said, I was just telling my students I practically got kicked out of college my first year, they said if you take one more picture of a tree you have to take pictures of something else…. I was like but some are maples and some are . Mike and I met planting trees. We got married in 1993, and when you watch trees grow and see them change over the years. We’re on 20 acres of mostly pine trees. Also Russ Metge from Simply Trees has been one of my most downloaded episodes who talks about fruit tree pruning and I am alway amazed at how much fruit we get off of these trees.
Is there something you would do different next year or want to try/new?
I’m not planning on anything new, in part because I don’t have any space/ That’s the difference between 20 acres and living in a city.
You quickly stuff your lot full of plants and these plants get bigger and bigger!
I just don’t have much space.
Here’s something kind of interesting in the last couple of years, taking advantage of and doing. The garden’s established enough now and there are certain perennials that are happy with where they are. They’re starting to kick out seeds every year.
Conditions are good right around the mother plant in the soil so I’m getting scads of seedlings of perennials. I want to focus on food for pollinators, when I started gardening, I didn’t think about that a lot and the plight of pollinators wasn’t as bad 10 years ago.
I want to focus on feeding pollinators
we lost unfortunately, our forest pansy redbud
lost a tree
planted two more trees in it’s place
trees are fitting well where the older redbud was
But what I gained is the space underneath it. It is a fairly small space
what i’ve done beneath the trees
note to gardeners
best time to plant perennials is the same time you plant the trees!
So I have this perfect situation, new trees new perennials.
I had seedlings of echinacea all over the place. I let my little seedlings grow and for one or two seasons I just pluck them right over to where I want them. I know they do well. plant my echinacea
The pollinators that come mid summer they are on these echinacea all seasson long. I want to focus on pollinators need food!
I have neighbor on one side of me, and one 6 houses away. What are you doing? He said, I’m gonna do a pollinator garden, I said let’s do a pollnator pathway. I’ll work on people between me and you…
that’s something on my mind.
the other thing, ground bees.
this is the tip
mostly the standard honey bee
lots of different kinds of bees
check how much you mulch, if you are mulching everywhere it’s the reducing the habitat of the ground bees. So leave patches of bare ground so you can attract ground bees. Every regino has it’s own neighbors.
really important type of
I’m mad for mulching
find some little corner of the garden
not pronoe to erosion
not at the base of
make a little space for ground bees.
I know in Montana our native bees are mason bees. They were doing a project with the kids at our last Seed Fair where they would fill up a coffee can with all thee different newspapers.
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Let’s Get to the Root of Things!
Which activity is your least favorite activity to do in the garden?
I was doing something yesterday that was getting me irritated:
We’re food composters so we have 2 small worm bins, that’s where all the food waste goes. Anyone who uses worm compost knows this is manna from heaven!
The best compost I think, especially for a vegetable bed!
I put tea bags into our counter top container,
out to the worm bin it goes
english tea I think called workshire
I’m giving these people a phone call and an email, they’re not as bad a United (haha)
These tea bags are half broken down, last fall I spread all of my compost everything looked pretty full composted I thought over the winter the rest will break down.
Yesterday I’m looking at my beds, I’m looking thinking what is this? I realized these are the remnants of tea bags! Everything else in the bed is thoroughly broken down.
what are these tea bags made of, maybe we’re gonna change the tea we’re drinking.
I spent probably an hour and half picking through
I wasn’t digging things up
remnants of tea bags and its in my food bed!
Now everytime I go out to look out at the veg bed I’m gonna be searching for these 1/2 degraded. Somethings wrong if it’s sitting in a worm bin for 6 months
That’s what’s hard, when you knowingly or unknowing bring something into your garden doesn’t play into nature. Fixing things like that are not my favorite things to do in the garden.
My very first interview was with Denny Krahe and he was talking about his worm composting bin. He was in Florida so you couldn’t be as far across the US from each other. So, I was like I’m gonna get one for my classroom and it could not have been a bigger flop.
It had a card board cover over it, and it needed more air. The other problem we had, I thought we would have a ton of food in the classroom but we mostly had fruit. Mike read online that your maybe not supposed to put oranges in there, it wasn’t decomposing! It was turning into rotting food. Do you have some tips for me.
I baby my worms
eventually they would break down all food stuff, and we’re gardeners and we want this done in as short as of time as possible
- citrus peels
- avacado skins
- no more breakfast tea bags
- cranberries –
I think cranberries are too loaded with some kind of photo chemical. About every other kind of food is good.
What they particular love is green leafy matter!
That’s what Mike says!
It’s very easy to them, it’s very accessible to them so they break it down really quickly!
When Im out an it’s summer time and I have a lousy leaf on a plant!
the veg bed
you need to go through the worms
Too many banana peels could make a worm bin slimy!
One of the things I do is I have all these torn up brown scraps with
- no glue
- no ink
- tear that up into pieces
- 3-6 inches
as I put scraps into the food bowl, layer with brown paper when the bowl is full
paper is nice and dry and it’s decomposable, it’s plant matter the worms will eat that
That’s how I control excess moisture
in the worm bin
limited on space
here you can build a 10 foot by 10 foot worm bin but I knew that’s not happening here in the Urban garden. I got big flower boxes
- 2 to 2 and half feet long by 8 inches by 10 inches tall
- drilled holes with a drill
- 8″ to a quarter inch across all over the sides
I have 2 of those side by side I stashed between two pots.
I put a piece of wood
seating plank you could sit on. Across the pots so the worm bins are out of site
It’s key to have 2 bins
for a gardening application
one I keep filling up,
more and more food in there and give it the occasional turn
don’t add any more to it
I just leave it alone
once it’s full
turn to the empty bin,
by the time I have the second bin filled up I go take a look at the frist bin and it’s mostly decomposed and that’s most certainly the case with our warmer weather here.
I’ve been putting stuff in it all winter and spring
should have some nice worm compost end of july
In an urban environment
You don’t want
- raccoons rats, possums
- whatever can get in there
keep them out
piece of plywood that is cut just to overlap the top dimension
brick on top of it. I’ve had them over 5 years maybe going on ten and I’ve never had problem with rodents. I have talked with other neighbors who are like I have such and such. I said did you cover it up? And then I wonder Why are you leaving food scraps on top? IDK.
you really have to fort knox worm
worms you want your worms and microbrials…
NO Furry Mammals in the Worm bins
they do have a bottom! I have mine sitting on a hard surface
couple of pavers to keep it nice and level
leaches out into the soil
by these flower boxes I have a fence made out of dogwood shrub so my worm bins are feeding my living fence
worm bins are feeding my living fence
great nutrients set those near a plant that would enjoy
My mom has problems with rodents where she lives in NY. We have rotating bins here too. I was thinking it was because of the lid. Do you have air holes in the lid?
How big? The diameter of a dime?
no bigger then the diameter of pencil…
I don’t think we could keep it out all winter in Montana? How cold is it there?
we do w
we were gone last winter, I was watching the weather wasn’t much warmer. We got a number of freezes and some snow. It would be cold would be high teens, lower twenties
that will happen
have never had complete die off.
come fall, late fall, I want to make sure I have enough in both worm bins that they will move to the center of worm bin and avoid getting frozen.
another thing a person could do to keep it going year round
person could fashion an insulating blanket
knew that a freeze was coming up
An old moving blanket, where you have dry snow throw an insulating blanket on a back deck might provide enough to keep them from freezing.
IDK I think it would have to be indoors.
Maybe in a garage or a shed. If you’ve got big old compost bins that freeze solid in the winter.
A lot of my listeners are in warmer climates in California, Texas, NY, Florida and Australia!
I did talk to a woman in Canada. Cathy’s Crawly Compostersin Toronto!
We kept having melons and grapes, Mike kept saying they want more what you eat and we didn’t have lunch scraps.
What is your favorite activity to do in the garden.
I won’t have anything in particular in mind, I know there is something that needs doing out there. The way I decide depends on the time of day.
Is it morning? I’m walking around with a cup of tea. I just walk around and I’ll look at something and think that’s what I’m gonna do right now. Maybe
I’m gonna cut the sage back hard and Im gonna mulch it.
I have my coffee grounds, I have containers of various kinds of organic matter, I’ve got my wood chips, especially with this new load I scored, and I still some leaves so I’m gonna mix some mulch! I’m gonna mix some mulch up girl!
It all depends what bites me. If it’s a drizzly kind of day,I want to be more active to stay warm.
put it all in a big pile
all of our pruning
most of yard waste bin
I don’t want to spend my prime time shoehorning more stuff then the bin can hold
I’ll pile that stuff
Sometimes I’m in the mood, I’m gonna go shoe horn all that stuff into the bin right now!
putterer and multi-tasker
on my mood and how much time I have
this time of year
This time of year I can go a little nuts too many things on
plants growing like crazy
- transplanting a little seedling from here to there
I’ll stand back and look at something and I think that’s not really what I expected that to do. Suddenly I’m in the middle of some massive pruning job!
That’s my favorite thing, I’ll get lost out there jackie! It feels like five minutes!
It’s an amazing feeling!
I just kind of go in circles. There’s always 75 items on my to do list and they all need to get done and so I will work on the one that fits me at the time. What’s the point of staring at a blank page, when you hear the story in your head you’re gonna write it, when you see the painting in your head you paint it. Why stare at a white page and let the other projects sit?
A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be, I’m gonna guess it’s your pruners.
No, you are right? It’s my pruners,
A lot of people swear by Felco pruners
One year, about 15 years ago, the company Stihl
They also had at that flower and garden show
- hand tools
I picked up their pruners and they fit my hand like a glove. I don’t have a super small hand but my hand are on the small size
I just picked up these pruners, I can easily grasp them without stretching and they have one of these quick release. They pop upon and lock them up when I need to. These pruners have never failed. I bought a new blade a while back.
They are the most fantastic! I have a set of sharping stones, so a few swipes of my stone and they sharpen up real quick! I would never leave home
You remind me of my mom, I can picture her everywhere with her pruners.
A favorite recipe you like to cook from the garden?
I made this thing for my book club about a week ago, this is how you know somebody likes something. We’re all chatty because we’re a book club. So it was my turn to host. You something hits the spot and every one is looking each other in the eye saying, “mmmm,” “what is this?” Not much talk, just a lot of chewing.
SPRING TIME SALAD CREATION
It’s asparagus season. I had a red potato layered salad.
- spring onion
- with this dynamite dressing
- Take the red potatoes and yukon steam to al dente.
- Steam the asparagus and get a nice
- Take a spring onion and slice nice and thing.
- Let is all cool, get nice and cool
You create a lasagna affect
The potatoes cut so they re thin flat circles no more then a quarter inch
bottom of a rectangular dish
Then herbs are starting to pop. I keep herbs in pots. I’m gonna make a green goddess dressing!
Green Goddess Dressing
- fresh parsley
- a lot a couple of big handfuls
Put in a 4 cup measuring cup and add
- olive oil
- chopped up garlic
- salmon (chicken, tuna) optional protein
that was my dressing. Thinned it out with some milk, olive oil
- salt and pepper
- chili flake
That would be like my sauce for this lasagna dish.
In goes a layer of potatoes
- salt and pepper
- green goddess dressing
- mustard in the dressing
- cooked salmon on e layer
- chicken or tuna
- layers of cooked vegetables
- some kind of protein
- key is to get fresh herbs for your green goddess dressing
Everyone was like under hypnosis eating that salad. The key is the garden fresh herbs!
If I could do nothing else I would have herbs growing in my window boxes. Try to grow herbs.
My mom is like that. Her garden is like magical she goes out and just starts clipping away and her salads are just amazing and always taste just a tiny bit different. Mike grew me this giant planter of marjoram. I always have some, it tastes a lot like oregano right? I have a ton of oregano. I might have to try that this week we’re having a pot luck at school.
A favorite internet resource?
There’s a garden site I like. It’s
It’s called garden rant.
My podcast is doing really well. Because of guests like you!
Just about a year ago I was at 125,000 downloads and now I’m about at 300,000!
I was just thinking Mike and I delivered the paper for a year. I took a year and a half off from teaching but it enabled me to start the podcast. Cause even last summer I worked at a golf course and it was hard to keep up, but that night time job enabled me to do it. I always said when we were doing it there would be a purpose. Was there a woman named Annie? I think I might have found them on Twitter. I used to be on Twitter more.
Because it’s a group of people. You get a lot of different content. You should check them out. Each of these people have their own website. You can always go to their individual websites. My guest would be that at least one of them would be interested of being on the podcast.
She’s on Twitter and Facebook. She’s out of Toronto. I met her speaking at Toronto Organic Growers conference a couple of years ago. Her name is Christina and every Friday morning she does this thing on Twitter called Ground chat
Why that is cool there’s a tweetup basically on Friday mornings. She will get a guest in and pick a topic and you get to read all kinds of all about this particular topic and interact with other people. I just bumped into her on Facebook too.
its all about soil! Not entirely but you know ground = soil
A favorite reading material-book, mag, blog/website etc you can recommend?
The one book…. I mentioned earlier
on my mind,
hidden life of trees
There’s another book, it may be out, if not gonna be out soon!
I ran into this book and person via twitter! It looks like it’s gonna be terrific. Called
google that title. By Nancy Lawson
Out of the south east, North Carolina
What I love so much about her and looking forward to the book. One of her tweets just cracked me up something like this.
“gardeners it’s time to lay down the weapons”
what people have done to the soil. How our behaviors and affect other life forms in the soil and our gut. That just struck a cord with me. The whole message and topic really resonated with me.
I think the listeners will love this because one of my most downloaded episodes. Number 2 Kim Romeril from New Zealand, talked about Cruelty Free Living. and also Jon Moore was the first one to mention no-dig gardening to me.
What’s your book about?
We thought we would be writing about the potential to store carbon in soil
the Microbial roots of life and health
our soils have lost a lot of carbon and filling them back up on the soil
when you start
we pick the hidden half of nature
we knew we were writing
a plant or person or goldfish or cat
community of microorganisms that are indigenous
bacteria or virus
odd single celled
write a little bit about to ground people in the microbes
what we are now learning
microbirom of a plant
most diverse and concentrated around the roots of a plant
in our own bodies the same thing is true different communities the equivalent of a root in a plant is our digestive tract not the whole part
the bottoms part
root stysemt of a plant
grand ecosystmes to our selves
mocriobail roots of life and health
how the micro biomes interact with their host
- a tree
- a tomato plant
in the book
basically comes down to this
colon roots of a plant
detailed and necessary
pollnators and plants
relationships and b
how these micro organisms
assimilate and break down nutrients
microorganisms in the colon and soil
consumming things need to eat too
excreting out of their other ends
excreting waste products
need a new name not waste
our bodies some have big medicinal effects
can fend off pathogens and bad microbes
in the botanical world
produce different chemical compounds
will help the plant fend off pathogens
respond to stresses in the environment
took a deep dive
faced a major health challenge
began to have a lot of questions about ttemicrobimoems of
what’s going on in our garden
how the human body
we all need to know
what we can
speaking at the Inland Northwest Food Network in Couers d’elane
intersted in food and farming and I was speaking with at their monthly meeting a couple of weeks ago and somebody come up to me after the talk. I would have never thought of this. She said you know what your book is.
We’re always kind looking at the book in ways to describe it so people sayI know what you mean.
She said “it’s like a John Grisham novel for biology geeks”
the lawyer books about the underdog and they’re quite page turners.
We weave the science to a story with history theres a lot of ag and medicine that is based on old concepts. One of the oldest concepts that we need to overall is that microorganizms are bad and we should irradiate them.
- it is wrong
- it has backfired on us in farming and in medicine.
The messages in our book are really important for people to understand because I think of micro-biomes as the greatest unknown conservations project out there. I am concerned about polar bears and whales and birds! And all of that stuff. But there’s a part of nature, what we call
that is hugely important to the health of every lifeform of this planet
Microorganisms are involved in the grand cycles that run our planet form
- carbon dioxide
it’s hard to get your arms around a micro-organism they’re not warm and fuzzy and they don’t look pretty but once you start dipping your toes into wha they do, you think OH1 yeah! I never knew. And then you start developing a different way of thinking about the soil.
Do you have an inspiration tip or quote to help motivate our listeners to reach into that dirt and start their own garden?
We kind of have a tag line that sums up the
What we really ought to be thinking about is to figure out ways that we can nurture and culture the micro organisms we need to have in our lives! They underpin our
they all need to eat
end of our talks is
don’t forget to mulch inside and out…
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