The Permaculture Podcast host Scott Mann!
The Permaculture Podcast host Scott Mann shares his amazing journey into permaculture and podcasting in this must listen episode.
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So I ask myself today what lesson can I learn since all the work I did this weekend evaporated when my computer crashed yesterday. I am going to release it so I can listen on my way to work tomorrow and hope for the best. Sorry if there are any mistakes but I think Scott was an amazing guest you will enjoy hearing from unedited!
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But I did put on my rose colored glasses on my way to work and ended up enjoying the sunny skies and beautiful Montana forests! Enjoy Green Future Growers! Here’s to technology challenges and hopefully better solutions! At least I didn’t lose my whole computer as I still have about 6 episodes in the bank to release!
Show notes coming someday!
I did want to make sure I include some important links Scott mentions. Two books and a website.
David Holmgren’s site and info at Permaculture Principles and the Poster Download that lists the principles to follow along as we talk.
David Holmgren’s book:
Permaculture: Principles and Pathways Beyond Sustainability
and
Toby Hemenway’s
Gaia’s Garden: A Guide to Home-Scale Permaculture
Tell us a little about yourself.
I grew up throughout the 80s and 90s
planning for the
Y2k
when I was going to college
I interned t a govt facility
interns examining these problems
living in my college town
back to the land
disaster preparedness
government
community based options
led me to permaculture
building up the digital
access
was relatively difficult
australia
europe
music albums
import
didn’t have ready access so much
these ideas went into a back pocket
thinking about permaculture
design
caring of the earth
returning to the surplus
2007 or 8
tat I began looking for a perm
I could get the vacation
lifestyle crisis
didn’t allow me to go
permaculture design
2 21/5 weeks
destination
found one being taught about an hour from where I was on weekends over 7 months
finishing my course
background in computer science
radio
launch the perm
more then 550
a lot of my connection
land based focused
earliest memories
perry urban
edge of a city
western Maryland
wondering out to my parents
onions and strawberries
parents would talk about thisI would walk to t he e
those are the earliest things
father was a good mentor for me
taking me out hiking and camping
wild
cub about
boy scout
interest and opportunities
friend so liked to spend time outdoors
indoors person
working in it
not seeing the sun
it called to me
permaculture podcast
graduate school
natural resource management
environmental education
what we’re these foundational moments
88 people
86 were looking to be park rangers and manager
almost everyone talked about having moments
kept them grounded to the other then hum
With the principals of permaculture
let’s start at the
I thank of permaculture
one of the founders
idea of this is that
we talk about it from a land use perspective
how to we raise food
permanent
agriculture
David hologram
quickly became how did we develop permanent culture
governance
sustainable food systems
how can we design
system
food
fuel fun
fiber
that’s where it comes from
earth care
people care
limit population and consumption
one of
fair share
prefer return of surplus
kind of in that order
decisions that we are going to make
is the choice that were are going to be making
why are we doing it
care for people are around us
is what we are doing going to crate a a surplus to the world at large
composting our kitchen scraps and recycle those nutrients
yield in our lives
financially helping to organizations
podcast
taking my educational surplus
plenty who can’t go on to grad schools
thoughts
recording all these interviews
surplus
sharing freely
wherever anyone can access these ideas
can
and then from there, there’s kind of a hierarchy
ethics
principles
varreis
from author to author
12 principles
permaculture
reminders when we are design
working on design
two hierarchical ideas
ethics
principles
decamping strategies
when we look at principal
David holograms in particular
if people want to follow along and see the list
10ºC pretty nice sunny warm
5º- a couple of days ago
For anyone who would like to operated by Richard
the first principal
observe and interact
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
imagine what it is we would like to build or grow in that space
observing
work on this vision
that’s where the interaction comes in
variety of strategies
talking with someone about what they would want to do with permaculture
design at the same time
ask them to sharing their goals
hearing what it is that they want to see happening around them
strategies
our techniques come in
where if we’re looking at a garden
where we are going to place
raised beds
double dug
discipline averrable in the world
no till
organics
anything else that we may have
obtain
Gabriel reminds us you can’t work on an empty stomach
work in our climate
growing things we are going to eat
share with a neighbor
friends and family
harvest meal at the
And just to introduce
how can we bring all the different pieces of our home garden community together
what are the pollinators I can grow
central penn
lavender
yarrow
onions
obtain
parasitic wasps that take care of things like my tomato worms
around the edges at the end of your garden rows
I’ve Nebr. played with this much
predator confusion
other plants
not drawing them into monoculture
garlic and strawberries act as the ground cover
garlic comes up between those leaves
during jane or July
strawberries two weeks after our first hard frost in the spring October
strawberries
propagate if I want to
let those dry
braid them put them up
immediately returning to cloves in the
growing almost perennial
break the bulb
put the bulb back in the ground
mesh frame
drying them traditionally
just as effective
good ground cover
strawberries or mulch
95º
my 3 favorite
strawberries
garlic
children
with a small patch
pint ot a
great to get those big strawberries
really look at ways I can maximize
harvest over the season
perennials
plants
loved raising them
water
thought they were high enough
got one of those 100 year floods
knocked
observed flooding
before I started really putting in the garden
as the water course changed
wetter
enough to being enough
principle 12
creatively use and respond to change
we may walk onto the land
have an idea with what we want to do with it
flooding
no longer
parenting partner and children
how can we work in ways
new and different
see that through
up and away
area that was flooding
modify my design
one edge of my property
range of brambles
water flows through
catch a to of water
very water loving
elderberry
I can swamp those
foot of water
twice as vigorous
hard cuttings
grow every well
permaculture is about any human system
friends and family
community
partner were not in a place we could continue our marriage
least destructive ways
to
mediation
worked with us together to find an amicable solution
family
we are no longer together
I don’t want people to not know of their case
permaculture
Tasha Cluna
the permapixie
feels that we need to be thinking about a forth ethic
where do we fall in
pre millennial
xiennial
Oregon tral generation
millennials after that
lives that we are living in this digital world
early 40s
largely lived a digital life
card catalog became a computer
grade school
computer came into the house 6th grade
uncle who worked for ATT
car phone
novelty
80s
many of us
in this
millennial been z kind of world
need to know what all the options
big umbrella
applies to so many things
trained on permaculture
completely transform our societies
step back and use those ethics
consider the various principles
look at the ways we can live intentionally
the world we came from is not the
do some
takes of
my parents grew up with parents who had gone through the depressions
make sure theres a lot of food in the cabinet
disaster looming on the other side
upbringing
because of access to resources
farmers markets have grown
tech has grown
my parents could never have dreamed of
parents instilled
permaculture in the beginning
making sure
once you meet your basic needs
celebrate
regardless of what we have access to
grandson of poor appellation hillbillies
who could bring some food
all of how I am related to
grandmother frying chicken
bread
slicing tomatoes
making tomato sandwiches
playing music till late in night
NYC
broadway
tickets see an amazing sow
do all those things too
all kinds of options
beautiful and available
world has to be
way that the world is
mid 40s and younger
cast off and rejected it
more then anything we have been told
connect with someone on the other said Entrepreneur On Fire the world
phone call
returned in Germany
made the world a lot smaller
shrink the world
makes Th. world a bigger place
geography
live local
be within our biosphere
get something from our farmers market
access to everything around us
elders in australia
different beautiful cultures
invited in participate in celebrations in rich traditions
ability and opportunity
a bit brighter and more
as people live differently
str
when I think about permaculture in a landscape
what food we like to grow and things like that
first thing
front door to car door
places were going to move through regularly
stems from that idea
zone model
zones 0-5
in most instances
zone 00
that usually represents the self
0 is where you call home
zone 1
where your garden would be
visiting
frequently
where you’ll be tending to and harvesting almost every day
with those out
most visits
influence
higher numbers
not going to visit as often
mentioning blueberries
shorter live perennials
zone 2
near our front door
place that we can get to relatively quickly
short hose to
walking through a couple of times a week
larger landscape we might have a zone 3
perennials
fruit trees
nut crops
chickens
goats or pigs
semi wild space
once a week
feed or move animals
growing live stock
more of a farm arrangement
timber trees
nut trees
things that are going to take a long time to develop and harvest from
wilderness
sit to meditate
hike
to do a little bit of foraging
wilderness not taking from as often
tend
make sure its a space not being degraded or any harmed
help preserve that space
6 or seven zones
don’t all exist in a permaculture
zone 0 and 1
apartment dweller
how am I taking care of earth
recycling as much as possible
preserve water
share with a roommate
what am I doing
second ethic
people care
space as best I can so that it doesn’t impact him
doesn’t have to be concerned about
herbs in a pot when string comes
go pick those up in the spring
carry those herbs
compost with my children at the end of the year
hear in the space
large farm all 5 sone
have zones 0-2
shorter lived perennials
apply these things to where I am
how can we make the best use of them
foods we want to eat
not necessarily
does enjoy them
work though these ethics and principles
well versed in the ethics and pr
you can design anything
learn about
Gaia’s garden
perm pathways
david
will walk you through the core fundamentals
theory application
permaculture as gardening
toby’s book is a really great place to start
teaches you everything that you need to get off the ground
really like toby’s voice
passed
permaculture city
more broadly
exploring over the past several years
not very good at growing things
might not be best use of your
paying someone who is really good at
graphic designers
marketing materials
great radio voice
local podcast
city your in
sharing
being permaculture being the best at your do
work on those areas you’re really good at
doing the things you are not good at
lots of people to grow food
sustainable future
climate change
need going
doctors
legal system
janitors and teachers
systems in specialization
whole of our society
be the best that we are
so our society
the best that they are
more
sociology
people fascinate me
integrate people into the landscape
spell of the
David abr.
what he was speaking to
conversations
what were these fundamental events that connected us with the world around us
talking to the people
threads that connect us
working with a client
proposed to many things
talking about these different pieces
time that we spent with each other
stepped back fora monument
one percent of things
care about our famines
children
focus on that
one of the dearest people Ive known in
our political views
what I continue to look at all of the pieces that we share around us
different
relationship
what are the p
how’d we
bring them into the fold
create something that is more amazing then it is
bountiful
thinking about breaking down this idea of scarcity
abundance
continue this exploration of permaculture
connect
what are the
impact their lives
model for others show them how they can be a difference
in 10 years we are goring to be in a place there
results in things that we can’t imagine now
I don’t see permaculture as the end of where we are going
place we don’t even know the name for now
social permaculture work
Ethan Hughes
apologize to everyone
possibility alliance
lived without gasoline
petrol oil
electricity
the changes of what they have made
model for others
where we can go
not where we are
lives could leave
very forgiving, healing us make better judgements without being judgmental
what he has done
lawyer gives up a giant luxury SUV
gets 3 miles a gallon better
living their lives more intentional
ethical and bring within the bounds of their life
work with Ethan to capture his story
leave my story into it
use tech everyday
written one email
now does not
technology
phone line
because that’s their connection
letters
that’s the cognition they need
maybe in 25 years
don’t have a computer
people face to face
what are the ways we can
resolve conflict
transform it
in these tense movements
make it bigger
resources that re not al
monetary
consider a future that is radically different where we are
possibility
handbook ideas of moving our lives never
bit b bit
day by day
living something completely new
what we have done
one of the first cars
got like 9 miles to the gallon
motor head
look at the way
pieces that he imparted in me early on
live differently then he did
driving my hybrid civic
fuel economy that I can get
tech they had
wondering nature
couldn’t ave imagined being there
MIT
always being on call
totally happy with it
living in the fight economy
$60k to
less then $6k
I couldn’t have thought that any of this would happen
I feel myself and many other people
gone down this road without knowing ow to get there
forged a past
curator of all this information
recording with 550 episodes in the podcast
made a difference
gardening
natural building
politics
how to apply permaculture to the political space
changing peoples lives
regardless of what we are
kind of week that we care about
by making one choice today
reusable cup
one little thing can be the thing that makes the difference
the impact that this change has for you
ask what’s a chance that I can make that would care of the earth
people around for me
make today
create a yield I would return t the world
whatever we are
whatever we feel called to do
share that with others and
more beautiful for
great place that we call our home
everything
really different people
things people that find
faith and earth care
3 episodes
about islam and earth care
remit
american living in the uk
permaculture practice blend with his
within the koran examples of each care
come from the earth
care for this environment
that’s in there for folks
explore these different ideas
neer explored islam
god parents were jewish
because of that mystery
possibility handbook
Ethan Hughes conversations with him
with him
more about practically apply those years
toby hemminway
interview with hime about his second book about a permaculture city
David Holmgrown
cohost will be recording another one
latest book
retrofit a surbur
regenerative
auto shower
theory organizational ideas
David bilker
regenerative business
to permaculture
great folks about talk to over the years
wide range of ideas
Joshua hughes
in my archives
conversations on his work
lives in costa rica
working on doing regenerative practices
investing in the rain forest
making a living for people who live there
intense permaculture in politics
leftest
anarchist
transition to heart
people like Bernie and arc
who I care more to listen
resource management
conservative land base and resource use
bern Babies burn
coal and natural gas
finite resource
finite planet why would we do that to ourselves
talked about incorrectly
is not really about the green side
as an economic policy
that is green
natural resource law and looking oat it
best thing out there
until someone proposes
starting point to talk about this kind of stuff
automation
ability to become more efficient
universal basic income
right now
investment tech
funding some of the worst things out there
subsidies
if were giving people subsidies
take care of how are we going to take care
looking at things
talking about drug policies
people harmed because of draconian what actually builds up
what is dangerous
IDK that any of these
start asking ourselves and our life
what do we want to see
what do you want for people you care about
changes in day to day life
beautiful ideas
working through
once you start looking at the realm of permaculture
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Tell me about your first gardening experience?
How did you learn how to garden organically?
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Tell us about something that grew well this year.
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Is there something you would do different next year or want to try/new?
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Tell me about something that didn’t work so well this season.
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Which activity is your least favorite activity to do in the garden.
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What is your favorite activity to do in the garden.
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What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?
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A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be.
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A favorite recipe you like to cook from the garden?
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A favorite internet resource?
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A favorite reading material-book, mag, blog/website etc you can recommend?
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If you have a business to you have any advice for our listeners about how to sell extra produce or get started in the industry?
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Final question- if there was one change you would like to see to create a greener world what would it be? For example is there a charity or organization your passionate about or a project you would like to see put into action. What do you feel is the most crucial issue facing our planet in regards to the environment either in your local area or on a national or global scale?
waste and garbage
people are going out and cleaning up their beaches and parks
something I do with my son
several times of year
collecting that stuff out in our environment
important
gets that refuse out of those spaces
improve the
helps to connect people with these places
helps
keeps plastic out of our waterways
not saying we necessarily have to go out
can’t be recycled
out of all of these spaces
create the way we great food waste
reduce reuse
refuse and prepare
what are ways we can refuse to create waste int eh first place
last longer
if anyone’s familiar
buy it for life
products for like
last a lifetime
investments
creating more waste
idea of
reduce reuse and recycle
repair what we have
having something like a cell phone that some people have
battery gets a little funky
repair center
use it for longer
recycling program at the end of life
learning something as simple as replacing a button
bodies change
seem let out or taken in
rather then buying something new
something people can do today
Do u have an inspiration tip or quote to help motivate our listeners to reach into that dirt and start their own garden?
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